Back to 2011 (I thought that I should write all of this down before it gets forgotten)

My first introduction to shooting came when I left the army in 1961,1 had the opportunity to go with some friends on some local ground to shoot pidgeon and rabbits and from that day it has cost me a fortune. Having gone through the building process of speaking to farmers and the like asking for permission to shoot I eventually acquired my own ground to look after on an estate on the borders of Leeds and Bradford, this consisted of 800 acres of woodland and 112 acres of arable including a river and a canal and it felt like heaven, I trapped it for moles, cleaned it up, put up no shooting signs, reared my own pheasants (which did not last long), bought myself a good Labrador and for a good number of years had a really good time of it all. Cindy (the dogs name) was the third gun dog that I had, the first one being the family dog and then onto the Bloodhound mentioned later on in the plot, Cindy was a superb gun dog who lived and breathed for shooting, she did not want to play with toys or kids, all she wanted to do was hunt, I used to train her every day for about five or ten minutes by hand signals by the whistle and verbally, she understood that all of these commands were for her job and when we put them into practice she excelled, I could have sold her many times over to friends and to some good game keepers but in those days we were a team and we worked well, we spent a many hours together on the Solway salts a truly magical place if your that way inclined...As time marched on I went through the usual opportunities that shooters get from time to time, getting invited onto other rough shoots, making shooting friends and of course the inevitable trips to Scotland after the geese, staying at the Powfoot Golf Hotel with its open log. fires and flowing scotch whisky, definitely a must after a days wildfowling from Powfoot to Brow Well and back, and some years we even had tickets to shoot the reserve at Caerlaverock, this is one of my Later tickets, which some of you goose shooters might recognise. This ticket for the foreshore a few years later, (complete with water marks from carrying it in the Barber pocket), gave us one of the most spectacular sights I have ever seen, on one of the morning flights there were an estimated 60.000 pinks left the saltings, and it took over an hour for them to leave, at this particular time of wildfowling, Peter Scot had a lot of say on the foreshore in Scotland and on the Wash where he was assisted by a then local wildfowler with the name of Kenzie the Wild goose man, from Sutton Bridge, real name Mackenzie Thorpe.
The gun that I first started with was a
hexagon shaped 30" full choked single Spanish duck gun, (with a shoulder strap),
I paid £8 for this gun and to me It was the bees knee'
s. After shooting this at
everything for a few years and progressing onto the local straw bale shoots I
decided that it was time for a new gun. By this time (middle 60s) I was driving a wagon for
a company called Henry Longs Ltd in Bradford and one of the regular
trips was to Courtaulds in Grimsby, down
the A18 which in those days took you
through the centre of Brigg
and of course Leonard's Gun shop. This shop was a
regular stop for me for in the back of the shop they had their own
loading
machines (12g) and I used to call in and
load some cartridges for the next
weekend, they also had a fine selection of guns which was the main attraction,
one in particular that I had my eye on was a 5 shot long recoil Browning
automatic, which I bought for the sum of £80. These
particular guns where very popular in West Yorkshire at this time because they
could hold 5 cartridges at once and were not restricted as they are today, the
spares for them where readily available to me, as a truck driver, from a firm called Xray Arms in
Park Royal London, who supplied the Irish Police with them as riot guns ,
and of course Browning spares were readily available from in those days John
Boyd whose name was synonymous to L.LePersonne and CO Ltd. in London, to the
older brigade of shooters...
My first interest in clay shooting came when a friend of my brothers introduced us I to a local club called, Lothersdale Gun Club in west Yorkshire, this was a really basic club, nestled in a valley with just a couple of basic traps and a hen hut, but the people that ran it were really serious rough shooters, and this was a way of extending their hobby. This was early 1963 and after shooting there every week for a few months they asked if we would be interested in joining the committee to help run the place, that was the start of my involvement with clay shooting. Unfortunately this little club had to pack up and leave the ground that they were on and it folded. Even so by this time we had been visiting another local club which was to be the main stay of my involvement in shooting, this club like so many others was run by some local shooters for their own enjoyment, two or three traps behind some bales or tin sheets and an old hen hut to take entries but, like so many clubs have found, if you do not own the ground, you can loose it at very short notice. This was to be the case at Keighley Gun club which was situated then at Stanbury near Haworth in West Yorkshire, the ground changed hands and the new owner wanted us off of the field so much so that on shoot days she would ride up and down on her horse between the traps just to stop us from shooting... The main men that were involved in this shoot were called, Ray Nolan and Eddy Moulding, they had hinted to me that they had been and looked at another spot to move the club to, and they would be looking for some fresh blood to help build and run it, I jumped at the chance, and my years with the Keighley Gun Club started. There were two other local shooters that became involved in this new venture, they were Martin Radcliffe and Phillip Snowden who was to become a shooting friend for more than 25 years. The old Keighley gun club at Stanbury was dissolved and each member was paid £8 as their share of the kitty which was left, plus the sale of the traps, and five of us started to build the new club. Old Ground.
The new club was to have a skeet range with single arm Bowman
traps, DTL with a new Blairgowrie trap (posh or what), and sporting with Bowman
traps on sledges, the field had so much fall on it that the Skeet range high
house platform had to be ten feet off the floor to compensate for the fall on
the field, with all of the other stands dropping a couple of feet on the way
round as you can see in the picture, the traps were loaded with one clay at a
time of course, and we ran skeet, DTL and sporting all day once a month at
the beginning. With
all of the traps being so close to one another we had to do the disciplines
alternately so that we did not upset anybody, and it worked
By this time of course I was a well established member of the CPSA (293 original) which in those days was hosted by Peter Page. I was doing a lot of travelling to other registered skeet shoots when I could, the distance did not matter to me then, if there was a skeet shoot on I would get to it, even as far away as Kingsferry. Bedford shooting ground was one of my favourite places but, unfortunately this ground has disappeared along with Finningley (which opened in 1972) and Torworth, which closed in 1983, the latter two grounds were run by Derick and Diane Kirk, Finningley which was on the old airfield near Doncaster, had to close, so Derick opened his new ground which was situated two fields behind the Little Chef at the southern end of the Doncaster bypass, and had four red brick built skeet ranges with full planning permission, but not for long. One man complained that he could not sit in his garden on a Sunday afternoon because of the noise and they closed him down after one year with a loss of about £15,000, which was all of his redundancy money from the pit, Derick tried to fight it but they made him raise it to the ground, the Northern skeet shooters sure felt a big void in there repertoire from that day...
Keighley Gun Club was coming to the end of its life, we had some new blood injected into the ownership by the name of Royce Hill but it did not work and Royce went on to better things, which left three of us again, Ray and Eddy where not as keen as they had been and were certainly not keen about the Saturday skeet shoots, which left me to do all of the work. Royce's wife looked after the entries, my wife and my sister were running the catering and my two sons were trapping, this did not work, you can imagine the problems that I had with the family. One of the Sunday shoots we were entertaining some members of another local club called The Cock Ball Nipple and Touch club, (black powder of course) and I heard them saying that they had lost there part of the moor that they used to shoot on, and were looking for pastures new, without thinking I happened to say that for the right money they could own this place, within minutes they were asking, " how much"!, a quick meeting with my partners and we came up with an asking price that was acceptable to everybody, we arrived at a deal, and Keighley Gun Club changed hands...
One of the favourite grounds that we used to visit when we were not registered shooting was at Menwith Hill US base near Harrogate in North Yorkshire. One of the shooters there who was to become a friend right up to this day, his name is Danny Frantz, started his first tour at the base in 1966 and in 1969 became involved in the skeet range that the base had, Danny started shooting skeet and soon became addicted. They were a close knit community in those days of the cold war and of course they were suspicious of everybody that wanted to visit the base as it was under military control then, as long as your name had been left at the gatehouse by one of the serving officers you did not have a problem getting to the skeet range. Going through the seventies Danny had joined a team of shooters from Menwith Hill who used to visit Lakenheath and Bentwaters, this team namely Danny, Charlie Richardson, Bill Stone, Tony LaPanne, Earl Rush and Jene Flyte had really got it made from a shooting point of view, the Hill as I said was in Military hands and always looked after there sporting people especially if they were taking on the Brits. If they wanted to travel anywhere all they had to do was draw a vehicle from the pool, fill it with petrol and set of, they were even subsidised with cartridges (Winchester of course), and for the return journey they just went into one of the bases to fill up, if they had to stay over night it was laid on in the officers quarters for them, that's how to shoot eh?. On the Hill a round of skeet with a box of Winchester cartridges (Yellow 12g AAs) was a £1 with as much coffee as you wanted, "those were the days", Danny's first tour ended in 1984 and he did not return until 1993 for his second tour, sadly he has just left again but were going to shoot the Buick Masters with him in Savannah next year, more on the Hill later...
Phillip Snowden and I used to shoot the Farm that his father in law had at Haworth, and any other shoots that we might get invited to. One particular occasion that will always stick in my mind and always make me laugh when I think of it, was when Phil had arranged some shooting on a moor in the dales at Hebdon, this moor was a piece of land probably about six acres but was right in the middle of a well stocked grouse moor and as it was common land it had to be bid for every year which Phillip did, he paid for the right to shoot it, so that's what we did, but it did not go down well with the people that had the rest of the moor especially when we turned up on the 12th of August when they were beating it, we had a great time ( say no more). On one particular 12th of August we had been on the moor and I was running a Bloodhound then, this dog was only young but stood as high as an Alsatian but heavier, his name was Zack. He did not like anybody bending down near his face, Phil knew this but, on returning to the vehicle to set off back home, I had put the dog in the back of the car while Phil was changing his boots, he didn't see me and I did not tell him that I had done this, he changed his boots opened the car door and bent down to get in the car, Phil is 6'3", getting into a Granada estate he had to bend a long way down, as soon as he put his head in the car the dog grabbed his face, Phil instantly reeled upwards and backwards cracking his head on the roof of the car and then fell onto the floor on his back. He did not know whether to hold his face or his head, but he did see the-funny side, or maybe it was the sight of me rolling on the ground holding my splitting sides, which were aching so bad I thought that it would burst, you've got to laugh haven't you. The next little incident which involved Phillip was when we were shooting at a little club called Horbury gun club Nr Dewsbury, this was a very small club run by some local shooters who were trying to make a name for themselves. We had visited the place a couple of times before and we knew the people that were running the shoot which was situated between the river and canal at Horbury bridge. On this occasion Phil had taken his wife Kath with him. We drove onto the ground and got out of our cars to be greeted by one of the owners sat on a new peddle type sledge trap, we walked over to view the new trap and Phil asked him how it operated. This person sat on the trap cocked it and let it off, Phil who was stood a foot away from the trap caught the full blow of the arm across the knee cap, Phil cannot stand the sight of blood, especially his own, he rubbed his knee and hobbled back to the car where he pulled up his pants to look at the damage, the arm had sliced his knee Cap and the blood was just coming through, he only said one word before he fainted and hit the ground like a bag of wet shit, and that was "Blood". It took four of us to get him into the car so that Kath could take him to hospital and in hindsight I am having a problem not falling out of this chair laughing while I write this... "No hard feelings Phil"...
The first shoot I put together outside of Keighley Gun Club was for the International year of the Child, 1978, this was to be a really big event involving all of the local gun clubs, but first I had to find a ground with enough room to accommodate a large sporting event of a possible one hundred guns. During my visits to the local country fairs I had made the acquaintance of one of the local rough shooters called Johnny Walker from West Yorkshire, John had some rough shooting on the Duke of Devonshire's estate at Bolton Abbey in North Yorkshire and was
well in with the main keeper of the estate, we had a meeting and John agreed that we should do something for the event. It was decided that he would find and get permission for the ground and I would tackle all of the local gun clubs to see who would take part. The first one was Ilkley gun club (unfortunately folded a few years ago) Eldwick gun club, Trawden gun club, (opened on its present ground in 1973 by Spence Watson and today things look a bit shaky) Batley gun club, (still has the same committee men today including Tony Benson) Allerton Bywater gun club, and of course the old members of Keighley gun club, we had the ground, we had the people to run the stands, next we needed some help to do the paper work and take entries, two local shooters came to mind, this husband and wife team Joy and David Linwood had become more and more involved with shooting and were getting involved with the CPSA north region (Joy later became north region chairwoman) so, off I went to see them, no problem, they jumped at the chance to get involved, we had a shoot in the making. I was the first one on the ground on shoot day just to make sure that the clubs as they arrived to construct there stands knew where to go and what was required of them safety wise. 6am, and the first to arrive was the police wanting to know who the hell I was and what I was doing on the estate property (forgot to inform the local police, not good policy). Solving that problem and getting everybody installed in there positions the shooters started to arrive. The clays had not arrived!!!!, the wagon that was bringing them was too big to get under a low bridge a mile away and we were waiting to start, the shooters who of course were mainly rough shooters and had land rovers, solved that problem and the shoot got under way (phew). The shoot was a success and we did make a lot of money for the occasion and I think that everybody enjoyed themselves...
Once I had the taste for skeet shooting I was completely
hooked, I was becoming more and more interested in the north region Team and its
selection shoots but, we were still shooting all of the disciplines, Sporting
and DTL were still in my vocabulary then, I think one of the last DTL events
that I participated in was the Vaux National DTL cham
pionship at Winyard park,
and the last one to be held there was on the 24 June 1973 with 115 guns shooting
it, the 25 straight badge which I won there, is now in the museum in SanAntonio TX. The main
problem with the shoots was trying to find out when they were on and of course
the date, this is a fixture list from 1967 in the only magazine that catered
for fixtures in those days, and that was the Shooting Times so (insert page ), I
thought I would have a go at solving that problem. I got in touch with as many
ground owners that I knew and asked them if they would be interested in putting
their fixture list into a special book which would be brought out every year so
that the shooters could arrange their calendar accordingly, sure they were
interested but, the problem was getting them to do the list in time for me to
print it, all of the grounds that are mentioned in this report had contributed
their list and I set about printing it. The book was called WHAT'S ON and
WHERE. I had sorted out the printer earlier, so of I went with the lists, 50
were produced just to test the result costing 50p each with all of the local
shoots in as well as the registered events as far away as Kingsferry, (which
opened on its present ground in 1973), unfortunately I could not keep the
grounds geared up with their lists and it had to be dropped...
Skeet shooting had really taken off in the north of England, Hesketh Bank gun club had added another range to its first one, East Yorkshire was starting to build its eventual five ranges, this picture is of East Yorkshires first acoustic ball trap layout in 1971, that's me on stand one with Philip Snowden on stand three, who dropped out of the CPSA for a few years and requested his old number 216 when he rejoined. (sorry the picture is corrupt) It was the skeet shoots that I was more interested in especially the north region selection shoots. This was 1985 me and another shooting friend called Roy Chappel were going to have a go at the team, the regional teams selection was in its infancy then and the main problem was finding grounds to run the shoots on in the north, the main grounds were to be Hesketh Bank near Southport (run by G G Taylor of Olympic skeet), Holmfirth shooting school (fronted by Brian Hinchcliffe and then by John Hinchcliffe), East Yorkshire Gun Club (in those days ran by a committee fronted by Joe Wheater who also looked after the bar and the gun shop in the clubhouse), these were the only ranges that we had in the north capable of running registered skeet.
Just a point about Roy Chappel, up to this point of time Roy and I had been friends for a few years, we had been doing a lot of rough shooting and wildfowling together and progressed onto clays, then we were shooting skeet and sporting anywhere that we could, one day he mentioned that he had seen a sea shoot advertised in one of the magazines and perhaps we should have a go at that," Yeh why not" was my immediate reply, Roy did not know what he was letting himself in for. This was early 1980s and as we toured around the shoots and country fairs it looked like we were not the only ones interested in the Sea shoots, a lot of the local shooters were also booked on the trip as well as some of the shooters from Hesketh bank shooting ground. On the 23 August 1980, we set of from Bradford Foster Square station on a train for Harwich where we boarded the ship for the over night crossing to Amsterdam. It was still daylight when we cast of on a fairly windy day but, within the sea wall it was as calm as a duck pond, I was a pretty good sailor as I had been doing continental work for about 5 years then and these ferry crossings were an integral part of my job as a long distance driver, so I knew what to expect. We left the dock and headed for the breakwater, my wife, Roy's wife and Roy stood looking out to sea with there mouths open, Roy stuttered something like "F——g hell are we going out there," the waves were breaking over the walls of the breakwater and as we went through the gates it was like a roller coaster. We were all a little bit unsteady as we walked around Amsterdam the next day and as we returned to the boat for the over night crossing to Kristiansand the weather was still the same. We should have reached Kristiansand for breakfast the next morning but the journey was so rough that breakfast had been and gone and it was closer to dinner time when we finally got there. Dinner had past, supper had passed, and during the whole over night journey I do not think I saw more than three people on deck . We did not see anything of Roy and his wife until we had berthed in Norway and then these two frail yellow unsteady people emerged from a cabin and it was them. By this time of course the shooting which was to take place off the stern of the vessel while out at sea looked like a none starter but, two or three shooters started to turn up and we did do a little shooting, but when we put our feet on dry land again Roy's words were "never again". Now its registered as just another little episode in a shooters diary...
Our first entry into the North of England team, 1982, being
new team members we had to go to the AGM north region to collect our new badges.
Joy Linwood had made it to chairwoman by then and we waited in anticipation for
her to call all of the new team members out to file up to the rostrum to collect
the new badge, (insert badge) (that was a proud moment I can tell you ),| I
collected nine team badges in succession up to 1989 then I dropped out to let
some new blood in... In my early years with the England team, the selection
procedure was to take the top twenty shooters out of the CPSA average book, take
them to a shoot and select the top ten, what a nerve racking experience that
was. In those days I was shooting an average 2500 targets on about 25 different
ranges scattered all over the country, summer and winter, and to stay in the top
twenty was difficult to say the least, but in 1984 I did just that. I was called
into the team after shooting a 99 in the last selection shoot at Melton Mobray to make the top ten, the
Captain then was selected the same as today, being the longest serving member of
the CPSA, something that Joe Kitson has never forgiven me for, top
five after the home international at Melton Mowbray in 1984 were,
JOE KITSON, (who
shot a 100 straight)
ALLAN
TODD, JOHN STACEY, ANDREW HARVISON and VALL
FRASER,
winners of the event on 489...(insert badge) 1984 was a good year for me
as I had found a lot of form and was using it to its maximum, the 100 straights
were rolling in from all over the place including the one that has left its mark
on me to this day, that was the Lancashire
Skeet Championship at Hesketh Bank, it was
the first time that a 100 straight had been
shot there and it happened at this championship
for me,
what a day?
.
Melton Mowbray shooting ground was run by John Green who also served on the CPSA
committee at this time...
1985, was to be the year of my first visit to the States, Danny Frantz (From Menwith Hill) had gone back to the States to be upgraded so that he could return to his job with the latest technology (oh my sides are at it again), he left in early 1984 and we went to stay with them in 1985 in the US, which just happened to be the year that the US open was in Schenecoy Huntingdon PA, just a few miles from where he lived, June 28th 29th 30th, what a time I had there. This club had 16 ranges in line starting at the top of a slope and going of into the distance, I think I must have stood there with my mouth open at the spectacle before me. You can imagine after shooting at the biggest club in England, which sported four ranges, and then going to shoot at a club this size, I was in awe for it was like a country fair for shooters, (paradise might be a good word) of course I had shot a lot of our championships at home which had a Browning stand and more often than not an Ely stand but this, I wish that I had taken a photo of it, there was every gun make trader that you could think of, and every cartridge maker to, there were gun repairers, shooting clothing makers and all of the razzmatazz that you get at the World Shoot now, but more on that later, for sure we had to do the sight seeing tours for the next ten days, but to me the shooting was the holiday and I think it was Dannys to.
Still in 1985, during my exploits with the England Team and after speaking to that southern Yorkshire man Allan Todd at Kingsferry, I had noticed that he was wearing a silver 100 badge from the CPSA, I thought I wonder how many shooters have shot 100 straight at English Skeet and who has the records. Contacting the CPSA I soon realised that nobody cared, so, back into action, I thought I would start a club of my own, I knew that people like Mick Tomlinson, Graham Taylor, John Hinchclife, Andrew Harvison, George Digweed, and John Good had all shot straights because I had seen them do it at different shoots and nobody was looking after them collectively, so the One Hundred Straight club was born, 1985... Little did I realise the work that I was letting myself in for, the first thing to do was create a badge, the one that we are wearing today is basically the same as the original one only refined. Next, set about finding the CPSA members that had shot 100 straight at skeet and get them interested, no problem, they themselves realised that there achievement was not truly recognised and the fact that they could wear a badge to pronounce this was a vast improvement on nothing. I did not have a problem finding the shooters as I was still shooting the circuit with vigour and the word was spreading through the skeet shooting population that we had a fairly exclusive club to belong to with a badge. As you will see by the OSC website list at the end of this story the names that were coming forward were big skeet shooters of the day, and eager to join, today is the 3rd of April 1987 and if a new potential member rings up to inquire about the club I still get a buzz from the enthusiasm on the other end of the phone proudly telling me that he, or she, has shot 100 straight and could they join the club...
This was in 1988 and as you can see by the list of members on
the website the club was going from strength to strength, as the membership of
the OSC was growing so was the number of NSSA members and a lot of them where
shooting straight in different gauges so, in 1989 1 thought that I would
introduce an International wing to the club, This was for the English skeet
shooting members that were also shooting NSSA. The rules were, and still are,
you must have shot one hundred straight at an English registered skeet event to
become a member of the club, this would qualify you to become an International
member when you had shot one hundred straight in a registered NSSA event, I know
that some of you have already shot straight in NSSA in different gauges but, the
OSC rules are, that you must have shot straight in English skeet first to
qualify, we must have a set of rules or we become a rabble. Another little gem
in 1989. This was my first year as England Team Manager, the selection shoot was
at Mike Renolds place, Mid Norfolk, this was where we were selecting the team
from and one very good shooter of the day was Phillip Thorold, when he had
finished shooting, I had to ask him if he would be interested in shooting for
England, his reply, " do I have to buy my own strip" yes, Phil did not agree
with this, and declined, a sad loss for the team on that day...
As
you can see by the list the OSC was fairly popular, in fact so much so I thought that I should do something for it collectively, I sat with my wife wondering what we could do that was different, we had done the local team events and the trips to the provinces, so what could we do that was different, what about a holiday, we could go somewhere shoot a few days and have a few days holiday as well, great, but where, what about America Jill said, what a thought, I was already a NSSA member and receiving the NSSA magazine so we sat and looked through the book for some grounds near Disneyland that we thought might be interested. I could not be bothered writing letters for that would take far to long, so straight to the telephone to find out if we could get some competition shooting some where, the first club that I rang was the SKYWAY GUN CLUB in St Petersburg Florida, I do not know who was more amazed on the outcome, them or me, but we sure had an event on our hands...Look at this picture on my Facebook...June 1988, the trip was to be one week in St Petersburg shooting, and one week in Orlando at Disneyworld, we were scheduled to fly out of Gatwick to Miami, there were 32 of us, not all shooters but we had enough for two teams, my first problem was with the airline, as we arrived to check in. I had checked everything, informed everybody in authority, Police, Airport, Airline, Customs, Shooters, uncle Tom Cobly and all, but be warned all of you would be travellers with guns, the Captain has the last say as to whether he carries guns or not on his flight, it does not matter if you have informed Richard Branson and he has sanctioned it, if the captain says " they are not going on this plane" then that's what it means, so, there I was stood in the airport check in with all of these shooters with about twenty guns, we all checked in and the shooters went through to the lounge to await boarding, leaving me to sort out the guns with police and customs, no problem, but, the flight crew that had been scheduled to take out this particular flight, and had been told of the Guns, had been re routed and we had a new crew with a captain that was anti guns. My heart was in my mouth when they came and told me that the captain had refused them and we had a problem, (cock-up would be nearer), hear I am stood in the airport with the airport armed police stood around me, still in the queue at the checkout looking like a right prawn!, with all of the other passengers still booking onto the same flight, you can imagine the thoughts going through their minds can't you, they must have thought that I had been trying to smuggle guns out of the country, for it certainly looked as though I had been arrested. Meanwhile, the people from Virgin office were trying to solve the problem, I had all of the correct paper work, I had been through the correct channels, and I had informed the correct people of our intention to fly with guns, but the captain had refused them on his flight so that was that. One of the officers from Virgin came over and said that the only solution was to fly them out to Miami the next morning on the first flight, but we were not staying in Miami I said, we were scheduled to collect cars and travel up to St Petersburg on arrival in Miami and that I could not and would not be able to find accommodation for 32 people at such short notice, so, "we will have them delivered to you in St Petersburg the next morning", he said, St Petersburg is 200 miles from Miami so you can imagine what is going through my mind cant you, well I will have to give Virgin credit where credit is due, for that is exactly what they did, in fact they arrived earlier than I had expected them, midnight the next night, the person that delivered them had been instructed by Virgin to drive them as soon as they arrived in Miami to St Petersburg because we had to be on the ground to start the shoot on the next day, (the second day of the holiday), and the cost to Virgin from Gatwick Handling Limited £255 which of course they had to stand as the fault was there's.
Trevor Street was the first one to receive his gun, the look of relief on his face said it all, he really thought that he had seen the last of his Remmington that day, after that the shoot went off as planned, the weather was unbelievably hot and we had a great time, the second week we moved over to Orlando and the Kingdom, the only thing I can say is "it was Magic"...
Some of the shooters I was shooting with on a regular basis were, as I was, becoming deeply involved, and more and more interested in the selection shoots in the north region, people like Bernie Magee, Phil Snowden, Paul Spencer, Steve Harris, Paul Sinkinson, John Mason, Nev Hardisty, Gerry Minch (a little Yank from Menwith Hill), Tim Proctor (now a DTL shooter, tut tut), Trevor Street (fromt thouse!!! Whatever that means), and Geof Crossland who went on to run Knaresborough gun club for a while. These names were to b
ecome the more dominant in skeet shooting in the next five or six years in the
north, there was a report and photograph in the SHOOTING NEWS
which was a new magazine of that period but sadly lost out to the big boys. This
was 1984 when the North of England team visited Allan Hume And Don O.Driscall
at there ground in Cumbernauld in Scotland, Allan Hume had been working his
little butt off to get the second range ready for our visit, the low house was a
600 gallon diesel tank modified to take a trap, this ground was the main
building block for all of the work that Allan has done for the SCTA over the
years, unfortunately that ground has disappeared as well. The second day of the
event was to be at East Fife shooting ground, East Fife was a little bit
different to the other skeet grounds that we had been to, the atmosphere was
very relaxed and the shooting was always secondary to the benefits of the
clubhouse, that did not sell tea or coffee. We did not realise until we had
tried to buy refreshments that all of the drinks were 70% proof which of course
the locals were used to, I am not saying that they were trying to get us drunk,
but they made sure we had a good time, as you can see by the trophy, we did beat
them, just, (insert the team photo here)... Some of the shooters had been saying
to myself and Bernard Magee that they thought we should be putting our expertise
into the north region committee and that they would be prepared to vote for us
should we do so, as the people running the skeet selection shoots were not skeet
shooters and did
not posses the credentials to
operate the procedures to the
skeet shooters needs. Like lambs
to the slaughter we jumped in
with both feet, and so began our
stint on the committee. Wally
Sayer was the new chair person
along with myself, Bernard, John
Mason, and Steve Harris
representing the skeet shooters,
I had the job of running the
skeet selection shoots and
Bernard, John and Steve were on
ground inspection duties, we
like to think and hope that we
gave a lot to the skeet shooters
while we were serving our time
with the committee.
By this time
a new ground had materialised
near Wetherby, it was to be
called The North of England Clay Target Centre
with Five yes Five skeet layou
t's, a
stone built club house with central heating and the owner (Alec Thompson) was a
none shooter. We did not know then but it was to become our home ground for the
next few years. But I
was heading for a more exciting experience with shooting. While still shooting
the circuit as we used to call it, I had noticed that we had a small number of
people that felt there was not enough rivalry between places like Scotland,
Ireland and the Channel Islands, we were aware of the home International for the England team and the
English open for the regional teams, but we were looking for a team event more
often than once a year so, I decided that I would put a team together of
shooters who were more or less attending all the skeet shoots that were on
offer. After speaking to Bernie about this he was in complete agreement on the
idea and we started putting feelers out to one or two people who we thought
would like to be possible members, little did we know how good it was to be in
the future... The Yorkshire Team (as we would eventually call ourselves) was not developed to rival the north of England team, but to run
along side of it to keep the members in top competition readiness if you like,
and it worked. We had some of the best regional team scores ever while we were
shooting this procedure. The first members were myself, Bernie, Phil Snowden,
Steve Harris, John Mason, Nev Hardisty, Gerry Minch, and John Barker, Paul
Spencer, who I had been watching for a while, had not been shooting skeet for long but was very
keen and thrived on competition. This Picture of Alec Brown of the North of
England shooting Ground in footings mode...
On the day that I had asked him if he (Paul Spencer) would like to join the team I had been stood at a distance watching him perform at the North of England. He knew that I was watching, and he did not let me down, after a meeting with some of the other regular members I said to them that we might invite Paul to shoot with us on our outings, they were in complete agreement. That night I telephoned him at home, he knew how deeply involved in skeet shooting I was, and all about the Yorkshire team, I wish I could explain the feeling that came down the phone from Paul when I asked him if he would be interested in joining our team, that really gave me a lot of pleasure, I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall after that telephone call. Of course he accepted and from that day until we went our separate ways he did not look back or let us down... Our first away event with the team was to be at Nottingham gun club because we had already taken their team on at the new North of England ground and Bob Smith who was a regular Nottingham shooter then thought that he would get in on the act, it was a good shoot but they did not beat us, it proved to us that this is what we had been looking for and we decided to try our luck further afield. Having shot all the selection shoots for a few years I had made friends with some of the Scottish shooters that used to come down to shoot them from Scotland, two in particular had become good friends and are still considered so today, they are Don ODriscal and Allan Hume who then ran the Cumbernauld ground. I had spoken to Allan at Hesketh Bank earlier about a team event in Scotland and asked if he would like to take on the Yorkshire Team, sure they would, and he would confirm it after speaking to Don. The shoot was to be 100 at Cumbernauld and 100 at Kippen, what a weekend we had, the company was superb to say the least, but the shooting was out of this world, especially by the Yorkshire team who were so far in front on the last day that we did not have to shoot the last 25 targets each and we still could not be beaten, having said that with a great deal of respect, skeet in Scotland was in its infancy then, and the Scotland team of today would be a far greater obstacle to conquer, I have just spoken to Allan Hume on the telephone, he has just returned from the 1997 Scottish Skeet Championship at Don ODriscall's new ground where after eight years of committee, management, ground staff and general dogsbody work he once again became "just a shooter "and shot himself into the Scottish team, well done Allan...
The team was becoming restless for more competition, as I had been made organiser, they were saying "where are we going next, "set us up to shoot somewhere else, where could we go, what about Ireland, we could go and shoot their championship, "OK let me see what I can do". A few telephone calls and I knew where it was, Hollow Farm in Northern Ireland and the date, was 4th May 1987. The man who was organising the shoot was Gordon Newall who also owned the ground, perfect, another call to Gordon and it looked like we had an event. Little did we know how good it was going to be, the event was a telephone entry job as they only had three ranges and he said it would be possible to enter our team. What a weekend we had, on this occasion (we made two trips in all) the shooters from the ground came and picked us up at the airport and took us to the hotel which was called the La Mon House Hotel in Castlereagh, we then used the hotel bus for the rest of the stay, this was supplied complete with a driver who liked to drive with his knees while rolling a fag, just one little point that made us a little bit uncomfortable was, while we were riding in the bus the driver just happened to mention that he was on the IRA hit list and that they had shot at him twice from a moving vehicle in the past. Just a small point that he thought we should know about. You can imagine how glad we were to get out of that bus, but that's not all, as we arrived back at the La Mon hotel this little gem of a driver said that the new wing we had parked by was new because the IRA had blown the other one up, and guess which rooms we were in, correct. This hotel would also be used for the England team in 1990, (I will give you more detail on the Hotel later), the guns had to be left overnight on the ground as stipulated by the police after obtaining an Irish shotgun certificate, and even though we had to shuffle across Belfast we did not experience any problems, not with the locals anyway but, on our return journey to the airport Phil Snowden was driving with Bernard navigating through Belfast, one wrong turn brought us right in front of one of the fortified police stations, Phil decided to do a U turn, six of us in a car with tyres screeching carrying guns, can you imagine the thoughts going through our minds at that moment. You will see by this Yorkshire team table of events through the year we did ourselves proud, especially Steve...
After the last event I had decided that the team could do with smartening up a little, not that I mean they were scruffy but, it might look better if we looked a little bit more professional in our appearance, so of to the tailors I went to see what sort of a deal I could get for ten sets of blazer and pants, I can not remember how much they were but, boy did they look good, and felt even better, now we really looked like a team and our next victims were to be Jersey. Little did we know that they were going to field a couple of ringers on us. The man to speak to was Mo Gotel, he was the mainstay of shooting in the channel Islands at that time, and probably still is, Mo was well up for it, he said they would organise the accommodation for us and a team that would give us a run for our money, unfortunately he did not mention that he had two Australian professionals staying on the Island and that they would be shooting for them. One of them in particular was shooting something like 3000 clays a week all over Australia, he practically won the shoot on his own but, on the second day only half of their team turned up, which was a little unprofessional but, those of us that were there had a great time the whole weekend, Mo did apologise for the people that did not turn up but what the hell it was only a friendly affair. If you think we had problems there, what about this for dedication or perhaps suicide depending on which side of the spectrum you look from.
My wife was waiting to go into hospital for a Lumpectomy, guess which day she was called to go in, "correct", Thursday the same day we were leaving to go to Jersey. Jill called we at work and said that she had been called into hospital that day and would I take her, I dashed home in the Truck, picked her up and took her to hospital. On the way I said to her that this was the day that I was supposed to leave for Manchester airport and Jersey and although I realised the seriousness of Jill's predicament I was stuck with 12 flight tickets and 12 shooters ready to go. She said that there was not a lot that I could do if I stayed at the hospital, for the operation was not until the next day anyway, this was about ten in the morning. As long as I called into see her before I left I could ring the next morning to see how she was, is this an understanding wife or what, she understood the problem that we both had and we sat and talked about it to resolve the situation, and off I went to Jersey that day, fortunately the out come of both events was good but in hindsight I feel a right Prat...
YORKSHIRE TEAM ANNUAL REPORT 1987
Jan 3rd 4th 5th Team Ex, the Yorkshire team came second in this the first event on the shooting calendar with Steve Harris high gun...
February 8th EYGC, the last shoot of the winter series and the Yorkshire team took three medals in this event, B. Magee GOLD, V.Fraser SILVER and N. Hardisty BRONZE...
March 29th Hesketh Bank, the last of the winter series, a member of the Yorkshire team took high gun in this event, B. Magee went GOLD again, the rest were there.??
May 4th, the Irish open at Hollow farm, all praise must go to Steve Harris for today he became the Irish open champion with a 99+25, eight members of the team took part in this event, unfortunately we lost the team event but still took three places, Steve high gun, Vall AA, and Minchi A class...
May 17th Hesketh Bank, the first of three north of England selection shoots, ten members of the team took part in this event, Steve Harris was high gun again, Nev Hardisty, Vall and John Barker shared AA, and Minchi won A class again...
May 25th-26-27th,the English open at Mid Norfolk, eight members of the team took part with Steve shooting a superb 99, and the rest of us were just making up the numbers...
May 30th, the Yorkshire team verses Scotland, 100 at Kippen on Saturday, and 100 at Cumbernauld on Sunday. Well I can only say that we shot like a team possessed, eight members of the team took part in the event and we finished of the days taking High Gun on both days, first in AA on both days, first, second and third in A on both days, the Gold Silver and Bronze overall, and the Team Shield, our finest tour yet, Well done to everybody...
June 14th, EYGC and the North of England championship, nine members of the team took part with Minchi shooting a superb 99 to take the title, Paul Sinkinson won A class on 98 and was invited to join the team on a regular basis, Geff Grossland second in A with 96, the rest of us struggled to make the selection. Today two members were dropped from the team for lack of support, John Mason and Nev Hardisty will have to make way for some new blood...
August 2nd 3rd, Hesketh Bank and the Lancashire skeet championship, only four members of the team arrived to shoot this controversial event, Bernie Magee high gun on 97, Vall won AA with 96, and Paul Spencer and Minchi won A class...
August 14th 15th 16th, British open at Kingsferry, 7 of the team took part in this event, Phil Snowden was in the States shooting, while three of the team shot a brilliant 99, Steve, Geoff and Bernie nearly made it but there were 14 one hundred straights on that weekend so they did not get a draw, but there is always next year ??...
Aug 30th, Market Harborough and the East Midlands skeet championship, two members shot this event, Vall shot a hundred straight and Phil Snowden shot a 95 and we had a good day out...
September 6th, the Nottingham skeet championship, at Nottingham, always a good shoot this as it is a team selection as well as the Notts championship, two members took part as the others were in Guernsey living it up, Minchi shot a hundred straight to win A class and Vall shot a 98 and was an also ran...
September 13th, the north Yorkshire skeet championship at the North of England ground, 7 members took part with Bernie shooting a hundred straight to take high gun but, the trophy did not go to one of the team... (Bernie is a Mancunian)
In the early part of next year 1988, there is going to be a referees course at Nottingham for English skeet and I feel that if each member was a qualified referee this would enhance our credibility on the field, the dates have not been fixed yet but I have made it known the Yorkshire team would be very interested in this event, (your comments please)...
Also I have spoken to Charlie Lucas about the Iron Man shoot at Lakenheath and as the shoot can only take 80 guns pre booked, I have made it known that we would like to shoot this event, the details will arrive later and I will keep you informed about said event, (your comments please)...
1986 -1987 Terry King was working for the CPSA as a senior coach in skeet and was organising a referees course at Leicester Wildfowlers shooting ground on the 20th March 1986. The team had a meeting at the North of England Ground on a shoot day and I said I thought that if the whole team were to become English skeet referees that this would increase our credibility in the eyes of our opponents in the future, they agreed and I got in touch with Terry to find out the procedure for the course. Seven members of the team took part in the course, and those were, myself VF, Steve Harris, Gerry Minch, Geof Crossland, Paul Spencer, Bernard Magee, Paul Sinkinson who owned and ran Felixkirk shooting ground and had become a regular member by this time. The team continued to be a success for the next couple of years and we decided to try our hand at NSSA skeet. We are in 1989 now and to keep the team enthusiastic I decided that it would help us as a team if we all became NSSA members and referees, (sickening wasn't I) this we did, but on the test day when (head mistress) Donya came to the North of England ground not all of the team could make it, Minchi (the yank) Steve, Geof Crossland who was running Knaresborough gun club by then, Bernie Magee, Paul Spencer, and DP Wilson who was just making himself known then (and still hasn't shut up), Steve and Geof were going off skeet by this time showing an interest in Sporting and ISU, Paul Sinkinson was following in there footsteps, and the little yank was being repatriated (thank god), Phil Snowden was driving continental and so was not able to get a lot of weekends off and the team as we knew it was breaking up, but boy do we have some memories. Going back to the" little Yank" for a moment, Gerry was working for the US government at Menwith hill station in those days which meant that he had access to the skeet range that I mentioned earlier in the story, he had arranged for the range to become the training ground of the Yorkshire team when we were not away shooting registered targets somewhere. What a time we had there, first on the agenda would be breakfast in the restaurant and a good natter, we would have some time on the row of slot machines that were there, then we would spend the next ten minutes trying to get Steve Harris away from the slot machines so that we could go and shoot. They still only had one range, but the traps were the latest White Flyers with a single stack which lasted for one round of skeet and was great. We had only shot on electric release traps that had to be manually loaded every time you pressed the button to release it. That's about it for the Yorkshire team but my interest had not stopped there, while all this was going on I was becoming involved in another side of skeet shooting...
At this point in the story having just mentioned DP Wilson who is still a great friend to this day, if any man deserved a mention about their commitment to English Skeet in the early day's it would have to be DP, I know a lot of people think that he woffles a lot but that's because they do not know him, you have probably only heard him quoting rules and regulations about shooting, which believe me he does know a lot about, this man had so much commitment and enthusiasm for the sport and its participants in the early days of Skeet, as some of you on the receiving end of his generosity will already know, he like Allan Hume who practically ran Skeet in Scotland, deserves a special mention...The middle 80s was a very busy period for me, really from 1984 to 1996 the Yorkshire team, the North of England team, the England Team Captain and The England Team Manager's job, the CPSA committee north region and the birth of the One Hundred Straight Club were basically all going on at the same time and in hindsight I do not know how I coped, but, when you get smittened by something you unintentionally give it your all, and I feel very privileged to have been given the opportunity to get so deeply involved with so many good shooters...
As I mentioned earlier in the plot, we had been shooting a fair bit of NSSA and we thought it was time for me Bernie and Phil to visit the world shoot in San Antonio Texas. Every time we visited Lakenheath to shoot one of the championships Charlie Lucas and Loll Bar would be name dropping about the top shooters in the USA who they had been shooting with, so we thought we would have some of that, and the first trip was planned, October 1989, boy did we have a good time. The flight was to be from Manchester to Chicago and on to Houston from there we hired a car and drove down to San Antonio. On arriving in San Antonio we went straight to the ground to register and have a quick reconnoitre to get our bearings and then back to the La Quinta Hotel, which was not four star but what the hell we only slept there, the next six days were pure pleasure. If you are a shooter reading this bit you will know what I am going on about, if your not, boy have you missed something. There were plenty of other Brits there as you can see by the photo, and what about Mr Poser himself Bernie, this was his first visit to the world shoot and he had to have everything didn't he, this man spent money like it was going out of fashion, he bought all the new shooting gear all of the peripherals and anything else that was on offer. One thing that we did not let him forget was getting his barrels ported. Every time we went some where different say to eat or view he would say to anybody that was there " did I tell you I have had my barrels ported", the poser, but we did get the last laugh on him. As we were boarding the plane to come home I was the first one of our lot to board the plane, I went straight up to one of the stewardesses and asked her to tap Bernie on the shoulder as he entered the plane and ask him if he had had his barrels ported. Of course I had to explain to her that this was not a rude thing and that it was about shooting for her to agree. As Bernie walked into the isle this young lady tapped him on the shoulder and asked him if he had "had his barrels ported", the look on his face was a picture to say the least, and we all had another good laugh about it... Still in 1989, on our return from the states and still involved with English skeet, I had a telephone call from Tony Whiting, Tony had taken a job with the CPSA as technical officer and wanted to speak to me about the England team managers job. Terry King who had been doing the job for ten years had decided to call it a day and the CPSA were looking for a new pigeon, sorry, candidate for the job. Tony had already asked one or two people if they thought that I might be interested in the job and the CPSA new that my interests were involving other members to shoot, i.e., North Region Team, Yorkshire Team and the One Hundred Straight Club, so they knew that I was fairly committed and had the technology to do the job. Tony rang me at home one evening and asked if I would be interested in the job, yes I am interested and would be prepared to give it my all, he said that he would have to go back to the office to confirm that he had asked me and that I would get a letter sooner rather than later to confirm my position. Well to give it to you straight from the heart I thought that I had earned this position, this was late 1989 and I had been working for the CPSA unofficially for the last 20 years already. To me this position was to be the highlight of my involvement with shooting, I looked on this position as being the gold medal for all of the time that I had spent looking after the other shooters, even though I knew that it would involve more of the same kind of work that I had been doing, now it was official and to me that meant everything... My first Home International was to be in Norwich and the ground was to be Mike Renolds place Mid Norfolk shooting ground, I had shot the ground in the past as Mike by 1989 had held a lot of the championships, through the disciplines over the years including the skeet championships but, this was to be his first skeet home international the same as mine. No problem, his part of the event went of in true professional fashion as did mine and the whole thing was a complete success, the banquet was held at the Mirage restaurant at the Oasis centre in Norwich, unfortunately the person that was involved in making the reservations for this event got it wrong by not finding a hotel that could accommodate all of the home international people, and the Scottish team were late getting to the banquet because they where in a different hotel. Although I was manager for the team at this event I was brought in at the eleventh hour and so was not involved in the selection of the accommodation, but this would never happen again on my watch, and we learnt from that experience.
The next year 1990 the Home International was to be held in Northern Ireland. This was my first event out of the country and the first time we would try and fly out together as a team, off I went to the airport to see what sort of deal that I could get for the team to fly into Belfast International. I did not have a problem sorting out a price which at that moment in time did not click just how easy it was to strike a deal, after all there were 13 of us leaving from Yeadon airport Nr Leeds so they gave me a collective price. On the day before we were leaving for the International I realised why it had been so easy, it was about 0830am, I was at work and someone came out of the office to say that I had a telephone call, I picked up the phone and it was John Miller, "Vall" he said, did you hear it on the radio that the airline had gone bust," what airline I asked", the bloody airline that's taking us to Ireland, we are booked with Capitol airlines they are the ones that have gone bust. There must have been a few seconds silence before I said "your bloody joking", no, it was on the 730am news and I have been trying to get hold of you since then, John leave it with me I will try and find out what is going on and I will ring you back. Well of course I had to have word with the management where I work and after explaining the situation they agreed that I should leave straight away to sort out the problem. I arrived at the airport forthwith to find that the receivers were already in, the airline had gone bust but they were going to honour the bookings that they already had, if the other airlines could accommodate the numbers. After talking and sitting, talking and sitting all day the problem was resolved. Everything fell into place by the time the team started arriving and they did not have to worry about a thing. And would you believe it we went back to the La Mon house hotel in Castlereagh (think back to the beginning of the story,) we were collected from the airport by the hotel courtesy bus, a 16 seater Merc with driver, not the same driver that the Yorkshire team experienced thank god. The hotel had not changed since the last time I was there, this was a proper pub type hotel with the seating arranged in the alcove fashion all done out in leather with support poles that went to the ceiling, the bar was the full length of the room, there was always Irish pipe type music coming from somewhere and the atmosphere was great and full of chatter, the people were friendly and the food was great.
The next move was off back to see Gordon Newall at the Hollow Farm shooting ground. The shoot went superb and we achieved the result that we wanted in a clear win over Ireland with four birds, (491) Dave Billington was high gun of the match with R. Carson Irish high gun and A. Renolds Welsh high gun, Scottish high gun was M. Milne, Jersey was M. Smith and the IOM was N. Kelly, we also took the Ladies team, high Junior and Andrew Harvison was celebrating his first Captaincy for England... THE TEAM 1990... A. Harvison, M. Rouse, T. king, D.Shaw, G.Lee , D.Billington, P.Theobald, J.Kitson, J.Good, T.Convoy... The next year the CPSA in there wisdom decided that the team managers job should be shared between two people so that they could do it alternately and share the work load, WRONG. They made Joe Kitson manager for 1991, unfortunately I do not have any paperwork for that event as it was Joe's baby. I had to write to Emilio at the CPSA office to explain to him that the managers job would not be possible to do on a yearly basis as the person that was doing it needed continuity to be able to book things in advance as the managers job had to start 9 months before the team was selected, to be able to confer with the country that was hosting the international. The team names and gender were irrelevant when the manager had to start negotiations with the host country, the only possible solution if they were insistent on having two roving managers was for them to do it on a three years basis, this would give the man a chance to do the job to everybody's satisfaction, it had to go back to the committee stage and they did see the error of their ways and the position went on to a three year contract... Still in 1991, we were of to the world shoot again, this time it was me Phillip and a friend of Phil's called Eric, Eric was mainly a rough shooter who had been doing all of the country fairs, shooting sporting and although he had been shooting for a long time he had never bothered to shoot English registered skeet, that is until he started going round the circuit with us. He never knew that you could spend so much money so fast. To Eric this was something new, not only registered shooting but actually putting his hand in his pocket, boy could we tell Brenda (his wife) a few things. He had started shooting English with us for a while and then progressed onto the NSSA shoots at Lakenheath, he certainly picked the right time to go to the States, by the time we left San Antonio he had picked up 12 medals, he just happened to be in the right classes at the right time and it paid big dividends. That was one happy little shooter I can tell you.
At the end of the world shoot we were left with a spare day on our hands for the
flight was cheaper if you travelled on a week day instead of Saturday or Sunday.
Having said that with hindsight if you are an ordinary working shooter as we are,
and you have to have another day off work then it is swings and roundabout's
with the cost. We decided that we would spend the last day at one of the
shooting grounds in Houston, and the ground that stood out in the book was the
Greater Houston Gun Club. When we arrived on the ground it was midday and the
temperature was about 100 degrees, this club was mainly a practice club that
catered for its own members more than anything, well that was the impression
that I got from the laid back atmosphere and the easy going staff, but they had
skeet ranges and that's what we had come for. As I said it was hot but we were
determined to shoot no matter w
hat, we booked on and a referee was sent to the
range with us. Phil was number one to shoot and as he took a look at the high
target the referee suddenly shouted to him to move of off the stand
as there was
a snake at the back of him, Phil although 6'3" moved like a blur, on a closer
inspection one of the local shooters with us said with alarm that we should be
very careful with the snake as it looked like a Water Moccasin that had come out
of the swamp looking for shade, and they were prone to attack rather than back
off. We stood back while the club owners tried to move the snake, they managed
to get it about 25 yards away from the skeet layout back towards the swamp and
then shot it, I must say that although we had all been rough shooters at some
stage of our shooting we did not agree with this, but, having said that we do not
have to contend with poisonous snakes every day do we. The people on the ground
said that they do get a lot of snakes coming out of the swamp looking for shade,
and had they not dispatched it, it would have returned. When we were in San
Antonio at the world shoot they did have a danger board up on the bottom ranges
where the sporting is, saying Beware of Rattlers.
This is Philip and Eric with the sign which was situated, if you go down to the
middle ranges ( which used to be the bottom ranges, before they built the swamp)
and turn right, this sign was was stuck half way down the track, (as you
can see in the picture) on the right, if you went further down the track
towards Roft Road, they used to build two skeet ranges just for practice
and then tear them down after the shoot...
1991,Team Ex (The OSC Championship) was still on going The first hotel we stayed at was called the BELTON WOODS HOTEL at BELTON Nr Grantham, this was a super place to stay on cold winter evenings, there were Bars, Pool tables, Gym, Swimming pool, Golf course, which DP and his family made full use of, and for the ladies, Hair dressers, and a Salon, this is where Tony May's wife (Valerie) made him pay the price of him going off shooting every weekend, she hit everything twice I think, Valerie had her hair done, her nails, a facial, and everything that was on offer in the place, Tony only saw her at night when we were eating the rest of the time she was being pampered while Tony suffered in the cheque book, but what the hell, its only Toni's money, and according to Valerie he has plenty. We had two tours at the Belton Woods, December 1991 and December 1992 and then we moved on to the Swallow Hotel at the Melton Mowbrey slip road off of the Al, this was a brand new hotel and although it was very nice it did not have the charisma of the Belton, unfortunately the numbers were down on this one and the atmosphere was, errrr, well not what we had planned. From then the Team Ex slowly died and this was to be the last one, that was Christmas 1994, hopefully in the not to distant future it will return, all we need is some support????...
1992 and the two cartridge rule raised its ugly head, Brian Carter was the CPSA man of the moment, and the home international was back in England, and the first international at Belvior shooting ground. The first Fax came from John Osbourne of the Welsh Clay Target Shooting Association, he was looking for a directive from the CPSA about the need of the Welsh team to load two cartridges for the internationals as this was there procedure at skeet, and having to change might be detrimental to their timing. To summarise the letter that I am reading at this moment from Mr Carter to Mr Osbourne, who's initial fax about the problem read like he had been conferring with the other participating country's. "No problem" we are not looking to put obstacles in your way, if you want to load two cartridges then go ahead. In this spot I would just like to insert a sentence from a letter that I received from Brian Carter about the cartridge problem just to prove that the CPSA were on our side in the decision that was taken about the problem, (quote). "Our committee was quite adamant on the fact that 'English' Skeet should remain as it is, the vast majority of shooters did not want change, and certainly "not for changes sake ", our committee also felt quite strongly that it is, and is well known as, 'English skeet and, as such we -the CPSA- would decide any changes when they were merited, and when we were convinced of the need for change," (end of quote). Strong stuff from Brian what, the shoot was to be at Belvior as I said earlier and the ground was run by Stan Gladders, the hotel was to be the Belton Woods Hotel and Country Club and the date was Saturday the 29th of August 1992.
The Team Was Captain Allan Warren 100 straight, Mark Vessey 100 straight and high gun, Tim Convoy, D.P.Wilson making his second appearance, D.Billington, John Cain and his son Johnathon who was high junior, John Miller, A. Ford, John Timmins, and Guy Simmons making his first appearance, the ladies were Sue Bramley high gun and Kim Hayler who both took the team event, the other junior was Matt Barron making his first show for the team, England won the event on 494 from Scotland on 472 and we all had a great time at Belvoir, unfortunately this ground had a lot of problems and had to close in 1994..., December 1992, Emilio Orduna joined the CPSA staff as Technical Officer (we do go through these Technical Officers don't we). This was the year that the CPSA decided to initiate the change to the selection procedure for English skeet, sorry, in my opinion to the demise of English skeet and club clientele, the letter I am reading at this moment from Brian Carter and dated 20th August 1992, is laying out the new selection rules and regulations for the near future. This letter, asking for the views of the skeet shooters and their opinions about the procedure was sent out on the 20th August to a number of, lets say the keenest skeet shooters of that period, with an expected return by the end of August to make the next issue of Pull magazine. Not much time to get the thoughts of a lot of the people involved, but we tried, and the result well did it matter, given the amount of time that we had to go to the grass roots of the matter. I would have to say that the decision seemed to have already been made, and you all know the result. While still on the subject of the selection procedure we will just skip forward to 1993,1 am not trying to tell tales about the CPSA as all of this is old hat by now, its just about how the present selection procedure came about and a little bit of information that you might not have known. As team manager I was kept informed about the goings on in the skeet forthcoming format, skeet had been run as far as I was concerned very successfully over the years and taking the top twenty out of the book always seemed fair to me, I can never recall anybody complaining about it but, the management committee in their wisdom wanted all of the selection procedures brought on the same line to make things easier to manage. What was difficult about that procedure before 1993 I do not know but, that's what they wanted and as far back as 1991they had been planning it and, this year they brought it in. When the selection came out of the book you could go to any skeet shoot and there would be a fairly large number of shooters there trying to better their average, this made it better for the grounds for they knew that they would get a regular turn up of guns to shoot skeet. In fact just to name one particular ground Nottingham, I can remember having to get to Nottingham shooting ground before 8am if you wanted to shoot before dinner, and one morning we arrived just before Eight and the first squad we could get on was squad eight, and all of the shooters were on the ground and booked in. In those days Nottingham was very popular as this was the ground where most of the straights were coming from, I can prove that by my records of the OSC, in fact from about1984 to 1992 most of the straights that were coming in were either from Nottingham or Kingsferry, during that period if you went to Kingsferry to shoot the English or British skeet championships you could see the participants looking at the score sheets that they used to leave on the wall from three or four shoots ago and every one had 120 guns on it. That was an ordinary day for the Ferry, then came the new selection procedure and the demise of skeet shooting as we new it...
1993, The Home International was to be held in Wales at
Telpyn Farm, and the two cartridge rule was here again, this is a paragraph from
a letter sent to me as team manager from the CPSA director of that period, Brian
Carter, (quote "I want to make it clear at this stage that, as "Host Country "
the Welsh C.T.A have made it clear that "two cartridges" must be loaded for
singles... This was the emphatic view of all member countries of the
international Shooting Council at its meeting on the 20th of February 1993, (the
original decision, with England's agreement was made in May 1991"), (end of
quote), talk about throwing obstacles in front of skeet shooters, did they
ask us, not many, they in there wisdom ruled the day that they thought of this
one. To me it did not matter as I have always loaded one
for English and two for NSSA, and I do not have a problem
with it because, we the grass roots skeet shooters all knew that loading one
cartridge was for the safety aspect. We have all witnessed what can happen when
you get a novice shooter on station
7, shoot the first target and then click and
he turns round with the gun to ask the referee what to do next, that is when the
referee swears at him and tells him to point the f—ing gun down the range so
that the rest of the squad can get up of off the floor, you can understand why we
load one cartridge can't you, so, to be told that skeet shooters would load two
cartridges by non skeet shooting people that we were paying to administer our
sport was not about to happen, the CPSA management was made to listen to its
members from that day on. One of the main reasons which made them realise that
the membership where not happy was the break away association the ACS
(Association of Clay Shooters), this was formed by Phil Boakes and
Will Newman and they hit the press as the NEW KIDS ON
THE BLOCK, the
former (Phil Boakes) was the technical development officer at this time for the
CPSA, the ACS started out to try and represent the Clubman type shooter and to try and associate them with the registered shooters as
we know them, at this particular time it was thought that there was not enough
emphasis on the ordinary type shooter and Phil and a few more people were out to
make that point.
Phil was always there at the CPSA, AGMs, giving them what for, telling them where they were going wrong, what they were doing wrong and why were they not doing what the members wanted, Phil decided to show them how to run an association for its members. The beginning of 1993 and the first feelers had gone out to the skeet shooters that there was a new body of people, hoping to not necessarily take over from the CPSA in managing skeet shooters and there events, more to make a point that it could be done, they set about organising there own shoots, the first ones being at Kingsferry, and registering them, there own insurance which looked pretty good at the time, and there own sponsors or backers. They managed to get 327 of the main skeet shooters to join them in their short period that they made their mark, not to drop out of the CPSA, but to be a member of both for the time being. I was a CPSA member from 1963 a NSSA member from 1984, and a BSSA member from 1989 and I was still the England team manager, Brian Carter was still in charge of the CPSA then and the letter that I have in front of me at this moment reflects the effect that the ACS had on the management at that time, the letter stated, or states, that they at the office were not pleased at my involvement with the ACS and would I send them a letter stating categorically that I was not in any way involved with the "GANG OF TWO", this is a sentence from a letter sent to me by Brian Carter in January 1993 about the ACS, (quote) "l am sure you will realise that I have to ask you for a clear and firm written statement to clarify any involvement you might have with this rival association, before we can consider your application further (England team managers job) and to include your comments on the above information that has been passed to me" (end of quote). I had replied to Brian's letter explaining to him that I was a member, and in a democracy people are allowed to choose what or who they want to join and did he or they at the office consider that the NSSA and BSSA were also no go areas for me, this was one of the reasons for the new association and why they, the CPSA in 1993 were feeling the backlash from the members, and of course they realised the potential that Phil Boakes had and was asked to join the CPSA staff as technical officer from his position of regional representative on the CPSA management committee on the first of April 1993, perhaps the date held some significance ???...
Dec 1993 Team Ex saw Clive and Sue Bramley high guns for the 1994 period, but the best piece of the Team Ex shoot was still to come, John Walker (the England skeet champion 1991) had been making himself heard on the shooting scene, (as if you could miss him) and this year he had decided to make his first pilgrimage to the World shoot in San Antonio Texas. He had to go and do the lot didn't he, which meant at least ten days of shooting on the same ground, in the same place all day, his first big mistake was to take his none shooting wife Ann with him, no I have not got anything against going on holiday with wives but, this was a shooting holiday for shooters and a none shooting wife is quickly going to get bored as John found out to his cost, those of you that have visited the World will know what I am
talking about, anybody that is not interested in shooting would be going to the wrong place, even though the weather is great its going to get boring. Johns first trip nearly turned into a disaster, he turned up on the ground after a couple of days looking lost and we s
aid "what's up John"? (just
think how John would have said this) "my missus is gawn, I don't know where the
f— she is", after we had done our shooting we saw John still wondering about at
the ground and as we approached him he said (quote) "she's f—ed off home, I
cant believe it, she's taken the credit card and f—ed off home", that was on the
fourth day, but Johns problems had not started there. Before he went to the World shoot, he had been at the
British open at Kingsferry with Mick Hayler, Mick's ready to leave but John is
not, Mick used to take him home but on this occasion he, John, had decided to
stay a little longer and Mick is getting angry, after waiting for John, Mick
thought that he would get his own back, John lived at Hue on the A2 so instead
of taking
him home Mick chucked him out on the A2 and told him to get Ann (his
Wife) to pick him up , John had spoken to Ann earlier
about her picking him up on the A2 but, she was not having any of that, John was
dropped off there all right but she left him to thumb it home, he got some stick
for that none event. This prompted me into getting a special trophy to present
at the next Team Ex in Dec 1993, it was for the Duck of the year and John won it
unanimously. The next little episode that involved John also involved Loll Barr
and happened a little bit later in the story but while we are on the subject of
knocking John we will keep going. These two are always trying to out do the
other with there little bets, only these two
back fired on John horrendously, we were at
the NSSA European Championship at Lakenheath
and the usual bets were taking place on the
outcome of the event but this one was a
little bit different, the money that might
change hands became secondary to the forfeit
that would have to be paid by the looser, in
this case it involved the looser having to
die his hair purple and wear it at the
shoot, John lost this one, then at another shoot at Lako, same two gamblers, the
looser had to wear a Black Leotard at the prize giving, you can
imagine Loll Bar in one being a little over
weight trying to look like Johnny
Weissmuller, (Tarzan to those not in the
know) but Mr Walker, plasterer, hotelier,
Skeet Shooter also lost this one and surely earned the Trophy...
1994, the CPSA English open was at the North of England ground at Rufforth, the British was to be at Northampton and the Home International was to be at Auchterhouse shooting ground Dundee, The International took on a new look this year for England, Sue Bramley had been shooting superbly for the last three or four years and had been in the England team for the last four years, I was still Managing the team, sorting the positions and generally doing the managers chores, Sue as I said had made it to the England team again and as this was her fifth time in the team, it meant that she was in line for the Captain of the team. I had already had some of the other team members ring me up to ask about the positions of the candidates for the job, I even had a call from Emilio Orduno, who by now was director of the CPSA as Brian Carter had left by June 1994, Emilio had asked me about the position of Sue in the selection procedure and what was the outcome, I told him that Sue was definitely in the Captains position and the only thing I had to do was ask her if she would except the position. At this point something told me that someone had been speaking to Emilio about a lady Captain for the England team, on the quiet of course, and Emilio had felt that the question should be asked, so he asked it. My answer was, "Yes Sue is in the Captains position and if she were not offered the job then this could, and would be seen as discrimination and any way Sue certainly deserved the position".
I am not saying that Emilio was against it but someone had asked the question and for sure Emilio was following it through which is his job, I explained to him that the England team management could not be seen to discriminate in any way shape or form and that the proceedings would go ahead according to the paperwork and he was in total agreement, Sue did except the job and her team went on to win with Mark Vessey taking high gun and Sue taking the Ladies... On the day after the International they always have an open shoot at the different grounds that we have shot on and Auchterhouse was no exception, but at this one the sports council drug squad turned up and two of the England team members that were still there were tested for drugs. Mark Vessey and Johnathon Cain were tested on the ground after the International, which both proved negative, but this was a very worrying time for these members, be warned any member of any team can be tested for drugs, the drug squad certainly do not discriminate and any member who is taking any sort of drugs under doctors orders while travelling with or shooting for the England team, or any other team, must inform the manager or CPSA office or both and must carry a doctors certificate to prove it. Fortunately the two members that were tested were not on prescribed drugs at the time and did not have a problem but when you stop and think of what could or might have happened had the correct procedures not been carried out, it makes you cringe doesn't it, I have just spoken to Sue Bramley who has just shot the European ISU Championship in Finland, she finished in the medals which made her a target for a drug test and, to quote Sue, "it was frightening"?...
1995, good grief there messing about with the selection procedure again, going into the last International (1994) Emilio had asked me to do a survey on the skeet shooters, under cover of course, to find out what selection procedure they wanted. But we already knew, and the office had already been informed, even so he said, you are in the position to find out from the skeet shooters which of the selection procedures they preferred and relay it back to me so that I can go to the management committee meeting to explain to them what they, the skeet shooters, wanted. As changes were imminent, I did this, the result was the skeet shooters wanted it leaving as it was, i.e. going round the grounds looking for scores and submitting them. I wrote it down sent it to the office and Emilio took it to the meeting, the next telephone call from the man went something like this, Vall, "yes", Emilio,, they have decided to go the same way as the DTL," but the skeet people do not want that" I said, I am very sorry but that is the decision that they have taken, I read your letter out to the committee and they (we have there names) said we are not doing that, we are going the same way as DTL," but skeet is an entirely different discipline I said", I know but that is the decision that they have taken and it has been passed. So now they tell us what we want do they, the rest is history because we are still running the same procedure whether we like it or not.
The 1995 Home
International was to be held at the Northampton shooting ground, September 2nd
3rd and the hotel we were to stay in was the Moat House right in the centre of
Northampton. What a bloody job I had finding an hotel big enough to accommodate
the International and all of its personnel. I live 150 miles from Northampton
and I do not know the town. The shoot should have gone to the Channel Islands
and Mo Gotel but they do not have the facilities for an occasion like this, but they have been participating from the outset of the
Internationals and out of
respect they are always asked if they would like to run the event, having done
this Mo Gotel declined so they asked England if they would take it over, this was the
Islands prerogative and they could have given it to one of the other countries
taking part. I spent two weekends down at Northampton looking for a suitable
booking, August and September any year are taken up by weddings normally booked
a year in advance so you can imagine the problem that I had trying to find a
place big enough to seat 120 at the banquet with 50 spare rooms. The Moat House
was the 6th place on the list and it came up trumps, a super place with quality
and cleanliness at the top of there agenda. The other new thing on the agenda
was the captain of the team, once again we had made changes to the format by
selecting our youngest captain to date, now I will have to give credit where
credit is due, this shooter (Johnathan Cain) gave us the opportunity to change
the format with his prowess on the skeet range, Johnathan had been in the
England team 5 times including this year and just because he was a Junior we
were not going to take the day away from him. I think that the worst part of the
event for Johnathan was the banquet, the shoot he could cope with
with his eyes shut, but
the banquet was a different matter. He new that he had to give the maiden speech
to officially welcome the other teams, well once again to give credit where
credit is due he made a superb job of it including humbling himself to his
father John for all of his support over the years, truly well done... The
English open was to be held at Southern Counties, and the British open at the
North of England, the selection shoots were scheduled to be at Kingsferry and
Northampton respectfully and we finished with a good team...
1996. this year my stint with the England team was to be my last, the shoot was to be in Colrain in Northern Ireland, I had booked the hotel in January of this year as soon as I found out where the banquet was to be held and everything was going to plan. I had spoken to Robert McNeice who has been the Northern Ireland manager forever, and to Raymond Burke who ran the ground in Colrain, flights had been booked to and from without names, transport from airport to ground was looking good and it looked like I had done a pretty good job even though I say so myself. Then the knifes came out, I know that in a job like this you have to be a bit thick skinned and you can not please everybody all of the time, but when you have been doing the job for nothing and taking everything into account losing money as well, you feel it. Just to put everybody in the picture about the reason that I did not attend the International in Northern Ireland this year, the CPSA had been pressured into ringing me (we have names) about the reason that I did not have an England team track suit, "simple" was my reply, My job is to look smart and be in charge at all times, and, you have not given me one, a track suit that is, "no, you will have to buy one", at this point in my career I had been working for the CPSA in one form or another for about 30 years for nothing, my CPSA membership was longer than two or three of any of the office staff put together, and I was told that I could not go to Ireland if I did not purchase a track suit, they are £60 for the top, need I go on???, fortunately Wesley Stanton was going to be in Ireland at the same time as the International, coincidental, I wonder, so that was when we parted company and I hope that the new team manager (John Walker) enjoys the job as much as I have done...
The One Hundred Straight club is going from strength to strength as you can see by the list, and to date 04/08/97 we have 252 members, I know of at least two shooters who have shot straight in the English Open this year who have not joined yet so its still looking good. Just one point that I feel that I must make, on behalf of the Irish members your association will not recognise the OSC, one of the Irish members complained to me that he thought that some of the shooters that had shot one hundred straight in Ireland had done it in practice and not registered, and as you the members know it must be registered so that we can get documented proof of said event, and when a member complains about something I have to act. When I received the complaint I rang some of the shooters on the Irish committee who said that they would look into it and let me know, that was two years ago and since then I have telephoned, written, spoken to ground owners in N. Ireland and sometimes at worst been a pest. From the outcome of this prolonged silence from the province one can only assume the worst, is somebody covering something up, has someone got something to hide, "what can I do". Perhaps the only fair way would be for me to delete all of the names involved, but that has to be the last straw and I hope that it will not come to that, but you the Irish shooters propa can rest assured that I do treat all of my members the same and there can be no exceptions to the rules. If its not registered then you have not done it and OSC badges must be returned if you have not achieved this. All that I need is someone from the UCPSA to confirm some of the dates of the shoots, or to link names with shoots..
The UCPSA went out of there way to resolve the situation to every bodies satisfaction, and all is well...1997. I still run the OSC, which has continued to be a Hobby and will never be commercialised. The OSC Championship shoots are still very special to me, I get a lot of enjoyment from new shooters ringing to say they have shot straight. One in particular happened not long ago when a new young shooter had shot straight and sent me an email to that effect. Procedure is, I assemble the paperwork and Badges the same night, post them in the morning and two days later I telephone the recipient to ask if they have received there badges, on this occasion a young lady answered the telephone (his Mother), the gushing enthusiastic pleasure, that her son had achieved this Badge, came down the line in warm waves, and was very satisfying. At the moment I get a lot of enjoyment from shooting the small gauges at NSSA, and once again myself DP Wilson and Bernie are going to the World shoot, that's if Bernie ever gets round to asking Jan (his wife) if he can go, can you believe that this man took his wife on holiday to Spain to try and pluck up enough courage to tell her that he had booked into the World Shoot this year, and he chickened out of telling her. Two weeks relaxing in the sun and he failed, this will take some living down specially when this tale gets into the hands of shooters. Today is the 1st of September and DP and I still do not know if he has told her but , we are looking forward to the event. Its1997 and I have walked away from all of the official Shoots, Teams and events, (except the OSC) and once again I am,--------------- Just a Shooter ... (The memorabilia of the OSC is on show in the Museum at SanAntonio Gun Club in Texas)
